The Only Brady vs Manning Question That Matters

    With another week of Tom Brady vs Peyton Manning talk upon us, I could do what I did last year at this time, use their career Tale of the Tape numbers to make the case that what they’ve done in head-to-head games is no more a “rivalry” than the Death Star had a [...]

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With another week of Tom Brady vs Peyton Manning talk upon us, I could do what I did last year at this time, use their career Tale of the Tape numbers to make the case that what they’ve done in head-to-head games is no more a “rivalry” than the Death Star had a rivalry with Alderaan. But this year the pro-Manning, Heavy Peyton zealots keep pointing to the AFC Championship Game as proof positive their guy is the better quarterback. And I will concede that Manning pitched a Madison Bumgarner-caliber gem last year. Which is to say, once Wes Welker carried out his Code Red on Aqib Talib, Manning did a better job of hitting his receivers against a depleted Pats defense (missing Talib, Mayo, Wilfork, Spikes, Kelley, et al) than Brady did throwing to Mathew Mulligan and Austin Collie against a healthy Denver defense in Spring-like conditions at Mile High. And the Lamar Hunt Trophy Manning won looks just like every other team’s Lamar Hunt Trophy, so good for him.

But making the case that one game validates the Manning-over-Brady argument or citing passing records to make the case he’s been a better quarterback overall is missing the way more valid question. The whole “debate” boils down to this:

Who’s career would you rather have?

Try something right now. Walk down a staircase in reverse saying The Lord’s Prayer backwards. And if what they told me on sleepovers in 6th grade is true, when you get to the bottom of the stairs, Satan should be standing there. (WARNING: Do NOT attempt this.) Now let’s say Lucifer asks for your soul and in exchange he’ll make you an NFL quarterbacking legend. And he offers you two options: You could have Manning’s career, or you could have Brady’s. By that standard, it’s not even close.

Consider the standards by which we really value QBs. Not cumulative stats or touchdown totals, but the numbers that separate the good ones from the greats and the greats from the GOATs. For example:

Quarterbacks should be winners:

Manning: 184-86 .681 +98

Brady: 172-53 .764 +119

By comparison, only five other QBs in history have more than 119 wins total. And Brady is that many wins over .500. Joe Montana used to be considered the greatest winner of all time. He won 39 fewer regular season games than Brady does right now with one more loss.

Quarterbacks should put points on the board:

Manning over his career: 27.2 PPG

Brady over his career: 28.0 PPG

And before your “but Brady’s teams had better defense and Special Teams” Acid Reflux kicks in, the Patriots’ non-offensive TDs have averaged 1.4 per season more than Manning’s Indy/Denver teams. So the difference is negligible.

Quarterbacks need to be good Late & Clutch:

Passer ratings when trailing with under 4:00 to go:

Manning: 76.7

Brady: 83.4

Passer ratings when trailing with under 2:00 to go:

Manning: 60.7

Brady: 80.3

Overtime:

Manning: 45.0

Brady: 97.8

Quarterbacks should be Late & Clutch in the postseason:

Game-winning drives in the playoffs (since 1960):

Manning: 1. Tied for 29th most all time

Brady: 7. The most all time

Note: Mark Sanchez has 2.

Quarterbacks should play well in the Super Bowl:

Manning: 3 Super Bowls, 3 TDs, 4 INTs, 81.0 Passer Rating

Brady: 5 Super Bowls, 9 TDs, 2 INTs, 93.8 Passer Rating

Brady’s lowest Super Bowl Passer Rating was 82.5 with 1 TD and no picks against the Giants in ’07.  Manning has been lower than that 2-out of-3 times. So for all the Brady haters clinging to this notion he only won Super Bowls on the backs of his defense and played like garbage in the two losses, everything you know and believe is wrong. And while you’re buying your special Peyton 510 Touchdowns commemorative gold coins from Franklin Mint, realize at his current pace, he’ll have to play another 34 years to tie Brady in Super Bowl TDs.

I could go on, but every schoolkid know the rest. Brady’s record 18 postseason wins. Manning’s record 12 postseason losses. The EIGHT times Peyton’s been one & done in the playoffs, four times when his team had a bye as the #1 or # 2 seed. People love to compare this “rivalry” to Bird-Magic, but it’s much more accurate to call it Russell-Chamberlain. Or to keep it even more local, David Ortiz-Ted Williams. One has all the great moments and huge production in the clutch while winning rings, the other has all the records. If you’d choose a career of putting up numbers over being one of the great winners of all time, as far as I’m concerned, you’re already in Hell. @JerryThornton1

[h/t to @footballfacts and @PatriotsSB49]

PS.  Seriously, don’t try that Lord’s Prayer trick.  The idea freaks me out.

 

By Jerry Thornton posted October 30th, 2014 at 1:43 PM

This New Nike Lebron Ad Has Officially Made Me Hate The Entire City of Cleveland

    First things first.  Let’s forget the fact that I was 1,000 percent right about why Bron Bron went back to Cleveland.  That it has nothing to do with his love of the city and everything to do with him recaputuring the spotlight and making himself the center of attention again.  It gave ESPN [...]

 

 

First things first.  Let’s forget the fact that I was 1,000 percent right about why Bron Bron went back to Cleveland.  That it has nothing to do with his love of the city and everything to do with him recaputuring the spotlight and making himself the center of attention again.  It gave ESPN a reason to do Lebron Sportscenter 24/7.   It gave Nike a reason to make these vomit inducing commercials.   It’s all about Bron Bron redefining the narrative of his career and making himself into Jesus Christ.   I’m not even exaggerating either.   He’s positioning himself as the Savior of Cleveland.   Who cares if he’s the guy who burnt the city to the ground in the first place?  But none of that is the point of this blog.

Instead I need to make an official statement.  Lebron has now made me DESPISE the entire city of Cleveland.   I don’t even know how that’s possible.  Like how do you hate such a pathetic city?   A city that never wins at anything and is a universal laughing stock?  How do you hate a city like that?  Well the answer is by letting Lebron waltz into this city that he broke and then watching these peons hoist him up on their shoulders again.  Have some spine.  Have some backbone.  Have some dignity.   It’s disgusting to watch.   If you can’t respect yourself than neither can I.  All this Bron Bron Cleveland lovefest shit makes me want to puke.    It makes my blood boil.   It makes me despise everybody in that pathetic wretched city.   The Cavs are now my least favorite team in the NBA.  I hate the Browns.  I hate the Indians.  I think I may even hate Johnny Football.   That’s how bad it’s gotten. I’m glad the city is bankrupt.   I am actively rooting against them not only in sports but in life.   Lebron did this to you.  He’s made a mockery of you yet again and you don’t even realize it.

By elpresidente posted October 30th, 2014 at 1:07 PM

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By elpresidente posted October 30th, 2014 at 12:40 PM

This Ebola Nurse Breaking Quarantine On A Bike Ride Is Hysterical

    (Source) — Sometimes you just gotta ride. A Maine nurse defied orders from the state that she remain in her home under quarantine over Ebola fears when she took a bike ride with her boyfriend on Thursday morning. Kaci Hickox, 33, who recently returned to the U.S. after treating Ebola patients in west [...]

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(Source) — Sometimes you just gotta ride. A Maine nurse defied orders from the state that she remain in her home under quarantine over Ebola fears when she took a bike ride with her boyfriend on Thursday morning. Kaci Hickox, 33, who recently returned to the U.S. after treating Ebola patients in west Africa, has come under fire from the state of Maine after refusing to comply with a voluntary in-home quarantine. Hickox has repeatedly said she will not abide by the state’s requests that she remain quarantined in her home for 21 days and made that intention quite clear by leaving her home on Thursday — on a bicycle.

 

 

 

Look I hate this lady. If the state tells you to hang out in the house for a few weeks so you don’t turn everyone’s guts into liquid then just fucking do it. I know you think all the proper precautions have been taken and you’re symptom free, but that NYC doctor thought the same thing before he rode the subway all over the city like a movie villain trying to spread the plague. Turns out he was wrong. So just shut up and watch some Netflix on the couch, it’s really not that hard. But, even hating this lady, I can admit this is hysterical. Breaking out of fake jail on a Huffy, blowing past all the news crews and police yelling “TRY AND STOP ME, COPPERS!” like an old timey movie villain is hilarious. I’m picturing a line of cops chasing her all over the place, like OJ or ET as she pedals around with her intestines leaking out of her ass. Sure I think this lady should have been shot when she walked out of the house, but I can still admit this is a ridiculous and hysterical scene.

By feitelberg posted October 30th, 2014 at 12:13 PM

Breaking News: Tom Menino Dead At Age 71

    Love him or hate him you can’t deny his impact on Boston.    He was truly 1 of a kind.   A Boston original.  The bumbling stumbling longest serving Mayor in the history of the city. Nobody has accomplished more with less than Menino.  He couldn’t talk, barely could walk and yet he [...]

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Love him or hate him you can’t deny his impact on Boston.    He was truly 1 of a kind.   A Boston original.  The bumbling stumbling longest serving Mayor in the history of the city. Nobody has accomplished more with less than Menino.  He couldn’t talk, barely could walk and yet he ran this city with an iron fist for decades.  So many funny, insane, surreal moments they are almost too many to count.   His legacy will live on forever.   RIP.

Cue his greatest hits….

 

By elpresidente posted October 30th, 2014 at 11:40 AM

World’s Dumbest Tailgate FSU Vs. Notre Dame. (This Weekend We’re At Ohio State)

As a reminder The Dumbest Gameday Show on Earth is back on the road this weekend sponsored by Dumb and Dumber To. The folks at Dumb and Dumber To asked us to hit up Ohio State this weekend and check out the tailgate scene so me, Big Cat, Hank and his drone will be in [...]

As a reminder The Dumbest Gameday Show on Earth is back on the road this weekend sponsored by Dumb and Dumber To. The folks at Dumb and Dumber To asked us to hit up Ohio State this weekend and check out the tailgate scene so me, Big Cat, Hank and his drone will be in Columbus for Ohio State vs. Illinois. So for all you Buckeyes it’s time to step up and show a couple other Big 10 alumni what you got. We want to know all your school traditions. Best pizza, Jumping in Mirror Lake, losing to Michigan etc. We want to be Buckeyes for the day. And for the actual Gameday show we’re shooting Friday afternoon around 4pm so we can have the thing ready to be posted at 11am on Saturday. So if you’re in town come start your Halloween festivities with us. The sluttier the Halloween costume on chicks the better. We’ll be at 219 E 17th Ave in Columbus. Look for the two guys dressed in Harry and Lloyd tuxedos.  And follow @barstoolgameday for all the pictures and news and where we’ll be at OSU.

PS – We’re still deciding where to shoot our Gameday show at ASU so if you want us to come to your frat, pool or house party send paul an email at paul@barstoolsports.com

By elpresidente posted October 30th, 2014 at 11:10 AM

If You Think Alex Gordon Should Have Been Waved Home You’re Wrong

          Obviously this is the play everyone is talking about, Gordon being held at third in the 9th. Feel like everyone on Twitter is saying you have to wave him there and take your chances. Problem is you’re not “taking your chances,” you’re forfeiting the game. Gordon is out by a [...]

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Obviously this is the play everyone is talking about, Gordon being held at third in the 9th. Feel like everyone on Twitter is saying you have to wave him there and take your chances. Problem is you’re not “taking your chances,” you’re forfeiting the game. Gordon is out by a MILE. It’s not close. Crawford could roll that ball to home and get Gordon, he’s mid-wind up and Gordon is just touching third. Posey could have taken off his equipment and had his first celebratory glass of Pinot Grigio (doesn’t look like a beer drinker) before he had to slap the tag on him. I know that Bumgarner was dominant but there’s still a better chance of him having a heart attack mid-pitch and throwing it into the stands than Gordon scoring on this play. In hindsight I guess I’d say to send him because a play at the plate is a more exciting way to end the World Series than a foul out but Gordon is going to be out on this play. That’s not opinion, it’s fact.

By feitelberg posted October 30th, 2014 at 10:44 AM
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