Red Sox Set To Announce John Farrell….Cue The Duckboats?
Boston.com – David Ortiz suspected from the start that the Red Sox eventually would hire John Farrell away from Toronto Blue Jays as their next manager. General manager Ben Cherington, Ortiz knew, wanted somebody who would command respect in the clubhouse and work effectively with the front office to change the direction of the franchise after a 93-loss season. Farrell, the team’s former pitching coach, had those qualities. “There is something that they see in him,” Ortiz said Sunday after learning the Red Sox had signed Farrell to a three-year contract. “Ben got his guy and he has things lined up to make the ball club better. He wanted Farrell to be part of that.” The 50-year-old Farrell had a year remaining on his contract with the Blue Jays and extricating him from that deal took 10 days of high-level negotiations between the teams. The Red Sox eventually gave up their starting shortstop, Mike Aviles, as compensation. It was only the sixth time in major league history a manager under contract was essentially traded to another team. Compensation talks occurred primarily at the ownership level, Red Sox team president Larry Lucchino speaking frequently with Beeston. The discussions were not without some rancor, the Blue Jays growing angry about media coverage of the situation. “There was a lot of, to be completely candid, gamesmanship and a lot of things that went on from a negotiating standpoint. Not on our end, just a lot of things that were coming out that were completely false,” Anthopoulos said. “We’re pretty good in terms of not putting things out there in the media and leaking things or saying things. The upsetting part for me were how many false reports were out there that I didn’t think were fair to John or to myself or to the organization.” “It probably didn’t go as smoothly as we think it could have,” Anthopoulos said. The Red Sox will have a news conference early this week at Fenway Park. But statements released on Sunday made clear their joy.
First of all I love how the Blue Jays are surprised that the negotiations with Lucchino didn’t go smoothly. Really? That surprised you? You didn’t understand what the One Eyed Bandit does? He leaks shit. He backstabs. He plays dirty. He’ll throw mud in your eye and then say somebody else did it. That’s what we do here in Boston. You sleep with dogs you get fleas. Period.
But more importantly I feel like I’m on some sort of bizzaro planet with how badly the Red Sox wanted John Farrell. Like am I nuts or was he a disaster with the Blue Jays? Didn’t they come in 2nd to last both years? They were 85-77 the year before Farrell arrived. They dropped to 81-81 in his first year. And then dropped again to 73-89 this year. Like imagine if this is how people in the real world were hired? The worse you get the more somebody wants you? Strange. Again I don’t think past records necessarily matter for managers (see Tito or Joe Torre) but the Sox are acting like this guy never lost a game. Facts are he sucked plain and simple in Toronto. The only reason I’ve seen anybody give as to why they like him so much is because he gets along with Lucchino and will follow orders. Just not sure that’s the best reason to hire a guy.


Hey elPrez you jewfag has “cue the duck boats” ever worked for you?
Yeah well John Lackey is back next year so….hooray?
Thank you for getting rid of the “meebo bar” (whatever the fuck that was), maybe this site will be able to load within 10 seconds now
I also like how the Sox got porked in the compensation. They give up Theo, widely regarded as one of the top GMs around, and it takes 6 months to get a non prospect. Then the Sox get an underachieving manager and it costs them their starting SS who was signed at a reasonable contract.
Pres, you used that same hiring philosophy when hiring Neil. Pot meet kettle.
i think it will come down to who’s on the field instead of who’s in the dugout. farrell or whoever… it’s more addition by the subtraction of valentine.
whorefrost you trying to tell me you’re upset they got rid of aviles? that guy has no business being a starter anywhere in the bigs. id rather take brian daubach and stick him at short.
“Like imagine if this is how people in the real world were hired? The worse you get the more somebody wants you? Strange”
Just like Neil.
Not hating on Farrell, but is he really that great of a manager? It just seems like the Sox got hosed again.
Here’s to hoping the media at least gives the guy a chance though.
Pres, when Farrell was our pitching coach Buccholz and Lester both had the best seasons of their careers, along with two no hitters (obv a lot of credit goes to varitek)… But you, along with everyone in Boston, was complaining about our pitching last year. How is it a bad idea to bring in a guy that has proven success with our # 1 & 2 SPs?!?
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First off, it wasn’t all his fault in Toronto. The team got destroyed by injuries, which I know isn’t an excuse, and overall the team was way over hyped, a lot of their prospects were not as good as expected.
Secondly, did someone in these comments seriously just say the Red Sox got taken because they traded Mike Aviles for him? Aviles is a AAA player, maybe AAAA, who shouldn’t start at all.
First off Pres, compairing Farrel’s season record, to THE Cito Gaston’s, is just retarded. Cito took Toronto to back to back World Series. Second, Farrel was pretty solid in Toronto, 81-81 is meh, but this year he got fucked by injuries and the “Ace” of the team going on a 13 game losing streak. If everyone did their job like you, we’d all be fucked.
Fucked by injuries huh? Never heard that excuse before
by whorefrost on October 23, 2012 at 11:01 am
“They give up Theo, widely regarded as one of the top GMs around”
Seriously? Other then his ability to overpay for underperforming free agents, and trade the Sox top prospects for underperforming veterans. Yeah I guess he is highly regarded.
corylidle while I agree with you that wasn’t how Theo was perceived at the time.
Savage I’m not a huge Aviles fan but the point is he is a legit mlB commodity…whether that be utility inf, platoon MI, whatever. It’s a lot more than they got for Theo.
Pres, it’s the only excuse when the Blue Jay’s “depth” wass scattered between AA and AAA this season. I also threw Ricky fucking up in their too. that’s definitely a good excuse. Going from a 2.92 ERA to a 5.77? get the fuck outta here.
pretty sure every toronto manager has ‘sucked’ since 1992. wonder what the common denomiator is there?
This guy fucking sucks. The Red Sox think he just looks like a manager. Fuck him.
@elgatogrand exactly. Farrell cannot be judged as a failure off his 2 seasons with the Jays. Living in toronto, the media and people always overrate and hold insane expectation for their players. The people here actually think that this current team could be a wildcard team. They think Romero is actually an ace, when realistically he is a number 3 on a majority of teams. They have made numerous trades that have ended up being awful (Aaron Hill for Kelley Johnson, trading for rasmus). Adding all the injuries into the mix, the guy just wasnt given the best tools to work with. I have a feeling he will be a fantastic manager for the Sox
So in the last few years the Red Sox have TRADED their GM and TRADED FOR their manager. You don’t need to hire John Farrell to put the Sox in the ‘bizarro world’ category.
So in the last few years the Red Sox have TRADED their GM and TRADED FOR their manager. You don’t need to hire John Farrell to put the Sox in the ‘bizarro world’ category.
@elgatogrande: Not saying Aviles is awesome, and not hating on Farrell, just saying the Red Sox seemed a little too intent on getting a guy who just doesn’t seem like he’s anything special.
Theo, Larry, Ben, Stat Computer, Bill James & John Henry all SUCK.
Dan Duquette’s talent won 2 World Series for these frauds.
Farrell might do better than he did in Toronto. Too bad that translates to 78 wins. hahahahaha. Cue the next GM search.
sox would be better off with butterfield , guys a beaut
People are really upset with them losing Aviles? He would have been traded this offseason for crap anyways.
Who gives a fuck? Give me a call when they get into the playoffs. I refuse to pay any real attention to this franchise until that time. Nothing further at this time.
All you moonbats should go and watch the press conference for Bobby V and then watch Farrell’s. This is a major upgrade. Hopefully Ben won’t call Theo to find out who he should get to play shortstop now.
Wait, people are complaining we lost Aviles? He had the lowest OPS of any hitter with enough at bats to qualify this season. You might not care about that, but Henry and CARMINE do. The guy is a Puerto Rican Shea Hillenbrand.
Duquettes talent won the 2004 and LMAO 2007 World Series team? Holy fuck stop ever talking baseball again bro.
Ha ha ha ha. The Jays gave up nothing, absolutely nothing and got a player out it. They better find Farrell some ballplayers or he will be looking to blame the GM for his lousy record. Hell, he’ll blame him anyway.