Derek Jeter: The Worst MVP Season Ever

haha… Whoever wrote that article is a moron. It’s not even up for debate. Mauer missed a month of the season and still has a line of: .373-27-85.

no words to explain how infuriating that logic is. that author should be fired, but not before having his hands chopped off. i’m still not sure this isn’t a plant to provide the FJM guys with a lay-up as they re-unite on deadspin today.

what were pedroias numbers last year? serious question

Jeter must have “brokeback mountain” friends in the front office for them to even write this article… JT is on the money with this one… Jeter is nothing but a yankees cheerleader. Every time on of the real players does something good the fucking camera shows his gay ass clapping…don’t show the guy who hit the ball into the stands, shows his gay ass prance around cheering on the boys, seeing who he’s gonna be blowing afterwards

holy shit. a writer has an opinion that people don’t agree with?

what kind of world do we live in?

Jeter has 7 errors this season, fewest among everyday AL shortstops, and by all accounts should win a gold glove this year.

and i’m pretty sure we already saw the worst MVP season of all time last year…

i hope he gets hit by a bus

As far as the worst numbers for an MVP season, I think you forgot one- Dustin Pedroia. His average was lower than Jeter’s , stole less bases, and hit the same amount of homers so far.

B.A. HR RBI SB

Pedroia .326 17 83 20
Jeter .332 17 64 26

Jerry you are a moron, stick to writing about the Pats. Jeter will have better stats in every category than Pedroia did last year with exception to doubles. And you can go on about the park he plays in but look at Pedroia’s home and road stats. Most of his doubles were balls he hit off the green monster that would be fly outs most everywhere else. I still think that Mauer deserves the MVP but writing this post and not mentioning Pedroias weak year last year shows how much of a homer piece of shit you are.

Keep your biased stats to yourself Connie. They have pretty similar numbers, except Pedroia won a gold glove and Jeter is on pace for 24 less doubles.

Pedroia 2008: 213 hits, 118 runs, 17 HR, 54 doubles, 83 RBIs, 20 SBs, .326 AVG, .376 OBP, .869 OPS, 1 gold glove

Jeter 2009 pace: 216 hits, 113 runs, 19 HR, 30 doubles, 71 RBIs, 29 SB, .332 AVG, .399 OBP, .867 OPS, 0 gold gloves

bravo connie.

barry larkin had a pretty shitty MVP year too. pretty soon that award will be just as much a joke as the golden glove or the emmy. i don’t think d-ped should have won either.

I hate Jeter and the Yankees as much as the next person but how can you write this entire article with not a single comparison to Pedroia’s MVP season last year. There numbers are going to end up being almost indentical.

Don’t sugarcoat it Jerry.

player A-.326 avg, 17 hr, 83 rbi, 20 sb, 118 r, 213 h, 6 errors.

player b-.332 avg, 17 hr, 64 rbi, 26 sb, 101 r, 194 h, 7 errors.

player A is pedroia last year, player b is jeter this year, with about 16 games to play. jeters season isnt that far off from pedroias. why cant red sox fans just appreciate a good player? im a yankee fan, and both pedroia and youkilis had great seasons last year, and are very good players overall. why cant red sox fans do the same?

Pedroia won because he was clutch, good with the glove, and it was also I think a down year for offensive stats in the AL.
This year Joe Mauer should win it. Jeter should finish in 2nd place

because jt conjures up more propaganda than goebbels ever thought possible.

most red sox fans can, and the writer of this is an embarassment to most sox fans, his argument is rather dare i say pink hat -ish or uninformed about baseball at best

On May the 7th, the Yankees of New York stood a meek 13-15 despite the vaunted presence of both Mr. Jeter and Mr. Teixeira, their two oft-mentioned MVP candidates this season. From May the 8th, the date on which Mr. Rodriguez made his return, this same squad is 80-38. So how, in the name of the Throne, can Mr. Jeter’s presence be construed as more valuable than any other?

I think my previous post laid it out pretty clearly. They have very similar numbers. My main problem with the MLB article is that it somehow links a lifetime achievement (eclipsing the Iron Horse) with winning an MVP this year. Jeter is having a great year, but Joe Mauer’s is better. For a catcher to be hitting .373 is insane.

twotoes, i completely agree. the minute that guy wrote this:

“When Jeter passed Lou Gehrig’s record that had stood for more than 70 years over the weekend for most hits by a Yankees player, he sealed the deal.”

someone should have poured steaming hot piss in his eyes and throat.

Mctrippy said: { Sep 16, 2009 – 10:09:29 }

barry larkin had a pretty shitty MVP year too.

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.319, 51 stolen bases, gold glove at short and captain of a pretty mediocre team that made it to the NLCS, all in a strike shortened 1995 season of 144 games. Add 18 more games of stats to his numbers and they look pretty damn good to me.

Jeter bangs Minka Kelly, Pedroia’s brother is a pedophile. You get extra votes for that, right?

I’m a Sox fan but the first thing I noticed was Jerry “Homer of All Homers” Thornton conveniently forgetting about Pedroia’s stats from LAST YEAR. That being said, I completely agree that whoever wrote the article is an idiot for basing his argument for Jeter on his passing Gehrig’s record.

it was another of those cherished moments in baseball history — like the night in 1985, when Pete Rose passed Ty Cobb’s all-time hits record, or 1995, when Gehrig’s consecutive games record was shattered by Cal Ripken Jr.

Neither of those player won the MVP in those years. Next arguement??

First time poster

as a writer you lost all credibility

had to get that in there

deke – add 18 more games? what if he went 5 for 70 in those games? projections are a joke, gold gloves are a joke. by MVP standards, larkin’s year wasn’t that great. check out reggie sanders numbers from that year he out-produced BL in nearly every offensive category and all of the ones that actually matter. not to mention the handful of players who’s stats were far better than BL….sosa, bichette, galarraga. he was a writer’s darling and thats why he won. same with pedroia.

TonyTwo toes, you’re making my argument when you say they have similar stats. If they have almost the same numbers, how can he say jeter’s having one of the worst MVP seasons ever and not even mention pedroia?

Clearly thorton didnt do much research before writing this article , as has been point out with pedroia’s number (wow – some amazing MVP #s Jerry! they must give it out for blowing children now)

TonyTwotoes – does a stat like double mean that much when you are a righty at Fenway?? and Just so thorton and Tony know Jeter has a .986 fielding – he will win the gold glove at Short this year as well Sir! trails only Ceasar Izturis who has only played 90games

whats even better is Jerry tried to subtly throw Youkilis in the MVP mix…nice try!!

.314 -25-85, 90Rs, 6SB…..would that then become the worst MVP or still second behind Pedroia

You have to look at each years competition. If Mauer put up this years numbers last season, he would have beat out Petey. The next in line against Pedrioa last year was Morneau who had the same numbers as about ten other players this year. Dont compare last years petey to this years jeter, theres no logic in that.

Petey 326 avg, 17 hr, 83 rbi, 20 sb, 118 r, 213 h, gold glove
Morneau 300 avg, 23 hr, 129 rbi, 0 sb, 97 r, 187 h

I’m a Yankee fan… I think Mauer should get it to, but Jeter still deserves a ton of consideration. JT is just a homer moron, so I never take anything he writes seriously anyway. The whole Yankees hit record thing is stupid too. But Jeter’s season is statistically very good, he is playing good defense this year and twists out Minka Kelly on a daily basis. He should win the Life MVP Award for 2009…

EnronCFO said: { Sep 16, 2009 – 10:09:47 }
“Jeter bangs Minka Kelly, Pedroia’s brother is a pedophile. You get extra votes for that, right?”

Are you suggesting Pedroia made the beast with two backs with his brother in his youth?

Pedroia is a stud and I might have a man crush on him, but to compare fielding stats from second to short is little much. If he can win with those stats playing second, then Jeter can win with the same playing SS. Neither are deserving and the fact that no one else is really being considered just shows the East Coast bias that is beyond argument in sports journalism anymore.

IMO, you have to play for a team that wins, or at least stays in the hunt for a playoff spot. Honestly, doesn’t anyone remember Andre Dawson winning in 1987? His team too last. What would they have taken without him? Mauer definately deserves consideration.

*took last* lest the grammar police break down my door for a typographical error.

I don’t think Jeter should win the MVP, but his stats are almost identical to Pedroia’s from last year.

Funny that you left that out.

Awards judged by anything other than only numbers are a complete joke in themselves. Sports writers (Baseball Writers Association of America) voting on anything is an abomination as has been seen many times. The ranking for college football was perenially the most idiotic process-now replaced by something almost as ridiculous.

Arguing about what the opinions of sports writers are (NY has a larger percentage than anywhere else obviously) is probably the real joke here and the MVP itself has been a joke since these numbers were compared and Joe won it:

In 1947, Ted Williams won the American League’s Triple Crown. He led the league in batting with a .343 average, in home runs with 32, and in RBIs with 114. He had a .499 on base average, a .634 slugging percentage, and drew 162 walks.

In 1947, Joe DiMaggio hit .315 with 20 home runs and 97 RBIs. He had a .391 on base average, a .522 slugging percentage and 64 walks.

A shortstop who hit .206 received one less first place vote than Triple Crown Winner Ted Williams in the 1947 MVP voting.

MPV award is a joke.

Real sports writers would pay attention to whats going west of Philidelphia. No matter how many of them there are.

Honestly.. Joe mauer would win, but now he is hurt and is going to miss the rest of the season.. So jeter will end up winning. You can’t say jeter didn’t earn it. This article was horrible. Really pretty bad.

And then comparing edgar martinez hit record with the mariners to lou gherigs with the yankees.. seriously? you’re getting pretty desperate. You’re a rookie writer and have little knowledge or respect for the game of baseball. If you respect baseball you should know that the yankee hit record was a pretty big accomplishment.

Buddy – So true. MVPs and All-Stars are things that only little kids should get excited about. Yeah, its kinda cool if one of the home-town guys has a stud year and gets the national recognition, blah blah blah. But all the “insightful” pieces that get published on this shit is pukey.

There will be no fight today!

Sorry, but how are Jeter’s numbers any worse then what Pedroia put up last year? Once again you prove that you’re retarded, I hate myself for reading you.

here are the stats and their A.L. ranks, that matter and you tell me who should win:

Joe Mauer- Avg: .373 (#1) HR: 27 (#13) RBI: 85 (#14) XBH: 54 (#27) OBP: .439 (#1) SLG: .610 (#1) GP: 120/145

Derek Jeter- Avg: .332 (#3) HR: 17 (#44) RBI: 64 (#50) XBH: 45 (#44) OBP: .399 (#6) SLG; .468 (#33) GP: 139/146

Kevin Youklis- Avg: .314 (#9) HR: 25 (#18) RBI: 85 (#14) XBH: 60 (#14) OBP: .421 (#2) SLG: .568 (#2) GP: 121/143

Mark Teixeira- Avg; .286 (#31) HR: 35 (#2) RBI: 111 (#1) XBH: 76 (#1) OBP: .381 (#16) SLG: .553 (#4) GP: 141/146

Pedroia’s 2008 numbers and ranks- AVG: .326 (#2) behind Mauer HR: 17 (#43) RBI: 83 (#27) XBH: 73 (#7) OBP: .376 (#T-10) SLG: .493 (#19) GP: 157/162

-yes Jeter’s #’s this year are similar to that of Pedroia’s when he won the MVP last year… but that’s what is was LAST YEAR and Pedroia’s #’s were some of the highest in the AL. that year, as opposed to this year where most of Jeter’s #’s don’t match the tops in the AL. Pure and simple. To say this is all but wrapped up and sealed for Jeter and not even give Youk, Teixeira, or Mauer any consideration would be in my opinion a Travesty. On the other hand if the MVP is given to the best cocksucker… well cut to the front of the line get on your knees and accept your award already Jeter…

You have to look at each years competition.

If Mauer put up this years numbers last season, he would have beat out Petey. The next in line against Pedrioa last year was Morneau who had the same numbers as about ten other players this year. Dont compare last years petey to this years jeter, theres no logic in that.

Sure Jeter’s numbers compare to Peteys 08 numbers, but that means nothing. Mauer wasnt a beast last year.

» Mctrippy said: { Sep 16, 2009 – 10:09:07 }
deke – add 18 more games? what if he went 5 for 70 in those games?

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What if he went 35 for 70? As he hit nearly .400 in the post season, I doubt his numbers would have seen a serious dip. Point is that any time you vote a shortstop as MVP its because they were considered a leader on the team. I think he only had like five errors all year, and unlike overrated Ozzie Smith (who got gold gloves 10 years after he should have) Larkin was a freaking vacuum cleaner at short. His numbers — adjusted for a full season — were as good as almost any pre-1995 shortstop who won an MVP.

Moe, Ron

If you take those stats, and then take into consideration (which you have to) as to what position each player plays, you are left with Mauer and Jeter. Both of which have played the best in the AL at their position offensively. I am a Yanks fan and based on position considered numbers I would have to hand it over to Mauer. Catchers with his offensive ability are very rare.

But then they also have to consider where a team would be without that specific player on the team. The Twins aren’t having a good year with or without Mauer. So I believe Jeter gets some support on the fact his team is having one of their best seasons in recent memory by far. He may also get some support of the fact he has been batting lead off all year.

I have never even heard of a catcher putting up the numbers Mauer has so I would still give it to him. Obviously that article is a joke and not even worth writing a blog post on. No individual career records should be considered as extra push towards an MVP. Especially not team based records.

BTW, Jeter is one of the most respected players of our generation. Why even bother stooping to the level of calling him a cocksucker? Stay classy.

YourACunt said: { Sep 16, 2009 – 12:09:58 }
“Why even bother stooping to the level of calling him a cocksucker? Stay classy.”

Your name is “YourACunt”… let’s go easy with the manners lectures.

Whether the award goes to Jeter or anyone else, I think we all agree it should be based on the numbers and the performance, and not a record he broke that doesn’t translate throughout the league.

Having said that, the MVP should come out of a team that wins, or wins solely because of that individual player. Most Valuable Player, it should be cut and dry, if your team sucks and can’t make the playoffs you weren’t valuable enough and you’re out. Twins suck, Mauer is out.

point is…projections are still a joke. so is the team leader nonsense which is only brought to the table when the stats aren’t there. i know jeter is a team leader in the clubhouse, by all accounts he is a good guy blah blah blah…but there are 6 or 7 guys on his own team putting up better power numbers than him.

anyway, i’m done with this and going to hide in my bathroom and watch pornhub on my iPhone.

“There may be teammates who have higher batting averages, hit more homers, driven in more runs, but no one has been more valuable to the Yankees this season.”

isnt production pretty important to a team sport, not someone who just happened to finally break a pretty old record. so if there are people with better numbers then he isnt even the yankees MVP yet he should be voted in as the leagues MVP? how exactly is that logical?