St. Lawrence Gets Penalized By ISL For Apparently Being Too Good At Football?
Boston.com - Lawrence Academy was stripped of its last two Independent School League football titles and prohibited from appearing in the postseason for the next three years, part of six penalties imposed on the Groton school by the ISL on Tuesday. “The seriousness of the sanctions we have imposed reflects our commitment to ensure the safety and well-being of our student-athletes,’’ said a statement from ISL members and confirmed by Groton School headmaster and committee chairman Rick Commons yesterday. But the sanctions don’t explain what Lawrence Academy did wrong, frustrating former coach Mike Taylor. “I’m sad and disappointed,’’ said Taylor. “I don’t know the inner workings of any violations there were, if there were any violations. If I did commit any, I take full responsibility for them.’’ The Spartans went 8-0 in the regular season and won their second straight ISL title last fall, but the success came with controversy. In October, St. George’s forfeited its game with Lawrence Academy, citing safety concerns. As Lawrence Academy rolled through the regular season, suspicions grew that the school was doing something wrong to achieve that success. ISL coaches and athletic directors were told not to comment on the sanctions.
“To not fully disclose what is going on is just the wrong way to treat your alumni and the rest of the school community,’’ wrote the graduate, who wished to be anonymous, in an e-mail.
“I am just so fed up with this story and how they’re painting Mike,’’ said Sean MacAdie, 30, an assistant coach under Taylor the past three years who will coach at Brookline High in the fall. “It is really frightening. It’s insane to me. “Athletic director Kathy Noble and headmaster Scott Wiggins have blown up an amazing football program that one person created, and for what? I hope it was worth it for them. I’ve never been around a school with such incompetence in my life.’’
A couple people have sent me this story. Last time we talked about St. Lawrence it was when another team forfeited against them because they were afraid. Now we get this. I got to be honest. I’m totally confused here I just don’t get how the administrators and ISL won’t say what the coach did wrong. That’s fake life type shit. Is it really because they were too good and other teams complained? Is that possible? As crazy as that sounds I wouldn’t put anything past headmasters and chick AD’s nowadays. Because if that’s not it than what is it? Is it illegal to give athletic scholarships to private schools? Isn’t that what everybody does? Especially all those hockey factories? I guess I’m just totally lost. And more importantly I don’t understand how can you not tell people why you’re punishing them? I’ve never even heard of that before? It actually makes me regret always ending these blogs with the “what are we in communist Russia line” because in this case we really are in Communist Russia. We’re going to reprimand you, not tell you why and just forbid anybody from explaining the situation. It’s bizarre world stuff. If he broke the rules say it! If not shut the fuck up and let him beat the piss out of people fair and square which right now looks like what he was doing but the ISL is too big of pussies to deal with it.
Will Michigan going D1 in Lacrosse next year change your views on the sport?
I believe that they are in trouble for giving our scholarship $$$ based upon athletic prowess, rather than pure financial need. That runs counter to the rules set out in ISL.
Communist Russia was better known as the Soviet Union.
Tough to stop misbehaving if you’re not told what you did wrong in the first place. In any case, I’d bet my nutsack that Kathy Noble and headmaster Scott Wiggins are left-wing fruits. Maybe they want two-hand-touch instead of tackling.
Jesus Titty Fuck! if they are too good have the MIAA move them to a different league or division. F’n stupidity. I hope these people die in a horrible train wreck, engulfed in flames
fuck you Pres i dont know if your fuckin with me or if your seriously that retarded… writing “St. Lawrence” again in the title? fuck off.
the ISL is the biggest bunch of rich stuck up arrogant assholes in the fucking world, good to see theyre finally being recognized for the vaginas they are
Pres you should do a stand alone Pusssification blog. That shit really fires people up, and might have a wider reading base.
theyre not in the MIAA cleveland steamer
Yet the ISL is totally cool with 19/20 year olds and a bunch of Canadians on their hockey teams. Or English imports on their soccer teams, and Long Island guys on their lacrosse teams. Lawrence is being penalized for getting too good at a non-preppie sport.
it’s difficult to modify your behavior in the face of punishment if you don’t know what the punishment is for. Isn’t that central to any rule system/punishment scheme?
too bad they werent good enough to salisbury prep in the new england championships…
yea having the coach pay for them really worked this year when they lost
thanks zoombinis. i still hope they suffer a horrible death
i thought St. Lawrence was a shitty lib arts school in upstate NY?
St Lawrence is a university in NY
Lawrence Academy is a private high school in Groton, MA
It’s Lawrence Academy you shmuck, get it right.
and zoombinis, go fuck yourself you fucking tool. LA is nothing like the rest of the ISL schools.
orloffs a faggot
The football coach is loaded and just donated tons of money to the school, so in return the headmaster would just let him bring in whoever they want. Even though it is legal to give out scholarships, you are suppose to give them to people that actually need and deserve them. Can’t just be handing them out like candy. How do you think you get all that d-1 football talent in a prep school in new england? Shits unheard of…. Lawrence Academy is the USC of high schools
st lawrence college or lawrence academy?
Do you even read the shitty stories you post? I think even Mazno does SOME fact checking.
the former coach should be suing somebody right now. he gets fired after coaching an 8-0 team without a reason? and you can give scholarships at private schools to anyone for anything…thats why there PRIVATE schools
The ISL is filled with rich, preppy kids who all think they are better at sports and life in general than everyone else. Not saying that every kid at an ISL school is this way, but most are. They then go to college and get a reality slap that they are not king shit any longer.
Great reporting Pres — you got this story wrong on SO many levels:
1. Lawrence Academy, not St. Lawrence
2. Lawrence and all the other ISL school headmasters and ADs know what Lawrence did, they are just not allowed to comment. The FORMER coach does not know because he is a FORMER coach (resigned of his own volition in February) and is not part of an ISL school. The ISL certainly enumerated Lawrence’s violations for them, but in an effort to help the school (and the league) save some face, the aren’t publicly disclosing.
3. You cannot give athletic scholarships in ISL schools — financial aid is given out on the basis of need (not as reward for being a good athlete). This was most likely Lawrence’s violation
bemccart, why let facts get in the way of a good rant?
Some stoolie must have gone to an ISL school and can enlighten here, but, isn’t there a gentlemanly agreement not to recruit for football in the ISL? And something else like they don’t scout or exchange tape? I thought I heard that once.
there is no gentlemens agreement not to recruit football players, and the coaches exchange tape before every game. Hell, we would practice with the groton school after we beat i mean played them every year. and as for scouting, im 95 percent sure it doesn’t happen.
It’s Lawrence Academy, a school for middle class fuck ups who think they’re going to a Deerfield or a Milton, not St. Lawrence you chode. I bet you went to public school.
Its Lawrence Academy you dumb fuck
I play football at st marks in the ISL and theres nothing we look forward to more than the Lawrence game. Sure we get our asses handed to us, but we got nothing to lose and its fun to play against some D1 atheletes. If your gonna call us pussies, take a shot from 365 lb Max Ricci, then when your done crying come talk to me you fucking chode
I go to LA and i would just like to say a few things…one pres you are an idiot, stop fucking calling us St. Lawrence were not some shitty new york college…2 were not in the MIAA you dumbfucks, were a prep school that plays in the NEPSAC, which stands for New England Prep School Athletic Conference, we have no relation with the MIAA, were not full of middle class fuck ups either you ignorant piece of shit elpresdiente, and all the so called violations were done without the coach knowing they were illegal, the administration, our own AD did not tell the coaches nor the players about new rules for workouts, or paying a part of a students financial aid, none of this was the coaches fault, none of this was the players fault, all fault should be blamed on the administration, its a good thing our piece of shit headmaster and athletic director are being replaced by competent well knowledgeable people. Teams do this shit every year, and the only reason were being attacked is because were just good, no other reason, teams are tired of losing to us, so they attack us.
lets calm down there smfball65, litterally anybody can play football at st marks so lets not try and use that as the reason you’re tough
manzoisaretard69, as an alum of LA, you’re embarrassing us all. You really aren’t helping your own cause with a rant like that. You sound like an idiot.
First of all pres you are a dumb fuck. second of all Lawrence gave athletic scholarships and had illegal practices which is a blatant violation of everything the ISL stands for
manzoisaretard69
Did you really just write a paragraph long run on sentence you fuckin idiot
first of all smfball65 st marks is fucking terrible so lets settle down tough guy.
second manzoisaretard69 you just sound dumb. lets be serious your coach paid your whole team to play for you guys, bought everyone jerseys and paid for half your school why else would they come to lawarence academy. half the guys on your team can barely read.
wiz you have no idea what your talking about. the guy bought the new jerseys, but that was before he was coach. Secondly, he didn’t pay one anyone. The guy was a coach for a very ( and i mean national title good) football coach for kids younger than high school. So he moves up to coach high school, you think some of the kids won’t follow him? You don’t know anything, so just shut the fuck up.
your honestly telling me he didnt pay (give scholorships to people who didnt need them) kids to come to lawarence…
He was a coach. He had no control over admissions.
or scholarships
really…http://www.boston.com/sports/schools/extras/schools_blog/2011/04/growing_turbule.html
“According an unnamed student source, Lawrence Academy administration approached former coach Mike Taylor for a donation a handful of times when the school fell short of being able to provide enough financial aid, with the understanding that the donation would go to covering the balance.”
http://www.boston.com/sports/schools/extras/schools_blog/2011/04/growing_turbule.html
you guys are all retarded. the real story is. Lawrence Academy is better then every fucking school in the ISL and everyone in the ISL other then LA is a bunch of pussies who are mad because LA kicked the shit out of every team in the ISL. The ISL heads of school are pissed cause LA is better at football than all of them. so they make up some dumb ass rules like you cant work out in a GOLDS GYM with a coach before the season starts because according to the ISL a GOLDS GYM is considered a playing service. uhm yeah grass doesnt grow in gyms now does it. so for everyone in the ISL and Kathy Noble, shove it up yours asses you bunch of pussies.
I fail to see the issue with that wiz. They asked him to contribute to the scholarship fund, just like they ask every other parent of students too, he had no control of who the scholarship money would go to.
I agree with Bball. Im glad i never had to deal with Kathy Noble, and you guys are VERY lucky wiggins is stepping down soon.
your honestly trying to tell me that seven d-1 football players got money “indirectly” from their coach who helped pay for their scholarships and thats just a coincidence?? seems fishy but thats just me.
Im going to lay this out very simply for you. Coach Taylor had three kids go to LA. Every single parent of a student who goes to LA is asked to contribute to the scholarship fund every year. Considering LA costs upwards of 38 grand for day students, and 50 grand for boarders, this is not unreasonable. If he were asked to contribute any money at all, it would have gone to a big pot (the scholarship fund)that goes to every single person enrolled at the school who has requested and been granted finacial aid. Besides, considering that most of those now D1 students had started at LA before coach taylor started coaching there, it would be a far fetched notion that they were “paid” for as you so stupidly put it, by him.
yeah your right…you guys did nothing wrong thats why your on probation.
Not saying the school didn’t do anything wrong. I’m just pointing out that your idea that kids got paid by their coach to play for LA is fucking retarded.
people can say they are good all day, but they got worked in the new england championship by salisbury.
losing by a field goal isn’t getting “worked”.
yeah and if their 3 best plays wernt hurt and if orloff wasnt playing on a turn ACL i think they would have killed salisbury
you can make excuses for them all you want. salisbury beat them to claim their second new england football title in 4 years.
fair enough osteehg1. but im just sayin that when LA is at there best and healthiest its pretty hard for them to get beat