The Big Show Assassinates Bill Simmons
So I was driving around like a mad man on Friday getting decorations for our Halloween Party and flicked on WEEI for the first time in like a month and the Big Show was absolutely killing and I mean killing Bill Simmons. Like you would have thought they were talking about the Antichrist or something the way they were bashing him. So the question is does the Big O have a point? Is Bill Simmons a fraud? Well longtime Stoolies know how I feel about this. I’ve been on the Simmons is a fraud bandwagon for 5 years now. Basically ever since I started Barstool Sports and here is why;
Here goes; For those people who are loyal veterans of Barstool Sports, you know that we have a longstanding grudge against Bill Simmons. Keep in mind that before I started Barstool Sports and for a full 6 months after the Stool launched I called Bill Simmons virtually every day and explained what I was doing and asked if he could spare a minute to talk andlend any possible advice. He never returned my phone call. NOT ONCE. Then we approached Simmons to do an interview with us to which he responded for the first time via email saying “he didn’t like media exposure.” Naturally, I was disappointed as I’d been reading him just about as long as anybody in Boston. I’m talking way back to his Digital City Boston days. Heck, he was part of the inspiration for me to start Barstool Sports. Therefore, I was surprised and dismayed when he totally ignored something that seemed like an obvious fit with his whole persona. The result of him dissing us was that we took a couple cheap shots at him in the paper (nothing to bad) despite the fact we had been huge and loyal fans from the beginning and left well enough alone. Months later the Weekly Dig ran a Red Sox preview issue that included an interview with none other than Bill Simmons! I sent Bill Simmons an email to confirm that he did in fact grant the Dig an interview as opposed to the Weekly Dig just pulling quotes from previous articles of his. Well, much to our surprise this was the beginning of a very unfriendly email exchange between Barstool Sports and Bill Simmons with Simmons being the clear aggressor. Simmons not only confirmed that he did do the interview with the Dig, but shoved it in our face that he had a ten times more entertaining interview with the Boston Metro that would be coming out shortly. He also went on to say that it was stupid for a “fledgling” newspaper like Barstool Sports to go public with the fact he denied the interview request since he could have potentially helped us in the long run, but now he never would. (He’s lived up to that promise) Trust me when I say that there was a lot more that Simmons had to say about BarstoolSports. We wish we could print the entire email exchange verbatim, but Simmons made such a stink about how unethical it is to publish them that we decided against it. However, in my book, if you are willing to say stuff via email you should be willing to standbehind it unless of course you want to present a different public face than private one. In his final email, Bill Simmons announced that he would no longer communicate with Barstool Sports andsomehow changed his email settings so when we tried to respond to his last email it automatically got bounced back to us. It is sort of like a little boy taking his ball and going home. Anyway, since Simmons refused to accept our final email, I figured we should publish it in Barstool Sports. It basically sums up how we feel about this whole exchange and was our last ever communication with the guy.
Bill,
As my final email I’ll reiterate that we didn’t go out of our way to take shots at you because our feelings were hurt as you put it. We document the ups and downs of the paper on a weekly basis. Your denial of an interview was a down that we felt our readers would be interested in. I stand by the fact that we portrayed what happened accurately and fairly. And I hope and honestly believe that if we ever have success with this paper, which is a long shot, we will never turn down an interview request from local guys trying to start something new in Boston. As far as us closing a door with you that didn’t need to be closed, I’m not sure it was ever open since you didn’t take the time to return any of the roughly 75-100 messages we left you in the first place. Ironically we were originally calling to seek advice and actually try to involve you in the paper.
Dave
So anytime I see something trying to portray Simmons as somebody who really cares about the Average Joe, I rip him because I think he’s full of crap.
And then of course there are the hundreds of thousands of stories across the Internet of Simmons sending emails to bloggers who made fun of him, telling them to stop talking about him. I’ve always found it strange that a guy who made his name ripping people to shreds could be such a sensitive motherfucker, but he definitly is.
The thing that sucks is I want to be on his side. I want to like Simmons. Because he symbolizes everything that is wrong with the Boston Media. I mean how is it possible that a guy as talented as him can’t get a job in Boston, but Ron Borges can snap his fingers and get hired by everybody in the city. It’s a disgrace. And despite what the Big O says about doing his research, blah, blah, blah they never had any intention of having Simmons on the air until he was already a mega star. WEEI’s job is to maintain the status quo and Simmons was anything but. The fact that they ignore the Stool is testament to that fact. So I love how Simmons basically said fuck it and went and became a huge star without any help from the local media. And I’d love for him to come back and stick it in everybody’s face but instead he’s just become part of the establishent. The bigger he’s gotten the more he’s lost touch with his outsider roots. Instead of going on Dennis and Callahan and mixing it up, he just kisses their asseses.
Now does any of this make him a fraud? I guess that can still be debated. What I’ve come to believe is this. Bill Simmons is a great writer, but totally not suited to be a media personality. If anything he seems to be kind of socially awkward. He sucks on TV. He sucks on the radio. He gets upset when people make fun of him. He turtles when faced with confrontation. Almost like a great athlete who’s talent thrust him into the lime light, but he doesn’t want it, doesn’t belong in it and doesn’t know how to handle it. He should still be in the back room writing jokes for Jimmy Kimmel where nobody knows his name and he can rip people apart without ever having to answer the bell. But instead he’s become a media icon and he just doesn’t have the charisma to back it up in person. It’s not really his fault I guess. It just is what it is.
elpresidente | Random Thoughts | 11/2/09, 9:45 am |



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youtube isnt working….id really like to hear this
WEEI has it on their audio vault page. The only problem with WEEI’s point is their main ‘fraud’ issue is when they saw him in 2001 and it was all buddy buddy. To me, that sounds like they’re all frauds. Simmons for not ripping them to their faces, as WEEI and Sheppard mentions constantly, but also the WEEI guys are frauds becuase they clearly didn’t rip Simmons during this love-fest either. At least Bill isn’t portraying it as anything fraudulent like they are.
SG’s always been thin-skinned so it’s not surprising that it hasn’t changed once he’s gotten famous. However, WEEI, especially Pete and Andy, are just as bad if not worse. They’ll kill anyone who crosses them and they do it constantly. They’re all frauds.
But at least Simmons is a great writer. The Big Show is just a waste of a great time slot.
I’m indifferent to Simmons, I like to read him but he’s definitely a phony (I love how he claims all these great sports memories from when he was about 4 years old) but getting assasinated by the Big Show is a compliment in my book. As far as him not reaching out to the Stool, you guys represent pretty direct competition to him (Boston based sports/pop culture info in a non mainstream format), you can’t completely fault him for not wanting to help out.
All of that rings true and for so many people to say the same thing, I’d have to say he’s an asshole. One thing nobody seems to get is that when you put something out to the internet, I don’t care if it is a post or email, it is in the public domain. It’s the same as girls who post hot pictures of themselves on Fakebook,then freak out when their pics are all over the internet or text nude pics of themselves and they are popular at school. I don’t care what that wingnut says, you should post his emails-I’m sure there is some entertainment value.
S A N D Y V A G I N A! ! ! ! !
Simmons was dead to me in 2006 when he was trashing Pierce and lobbying for Danny to trade him. And as history has shown, that would’ve been the dumbest idea ever.
Haven’t read him since.
Ever since he mentioned that he “made a Starbucks run” during Game 4 vs the Cards in 2004 I can’t stomach him…a Starbucks run???
right on- hes a great writer but not made for tv/radio/podcasts. Whats funny is he made his break BECAUSE of the Internet but its also the thing that’s tearing him down.
excellent post EP, you should show the emails. if anyone watches the wire, simmons is just like lake trout in a corner store. like bunk says..
“i mean lake trout, thats all marketing. just something dressed up as something it aint”.
You should let him know you wouldn’t have a problem if he wore a football helmet during a Barstool interview.
Not to play the devils advocate but its not surprising that he wouldn’t return the email of a start up sports blog. He, as you said, is a huge star. I’m sure Jay-Z wouldn’t give me a personal email of advice if i decided to start a music blog tomorrow.
Secondly, “you didn’t take the time to return any of the roughly 75-100 messages we left you”. 75-100 messages? That’s like crazy ex-girlfriend type shit. That’s not only pathetic but a little creepy. Next time just post the videos you recorded from outside his bedroom window.
Lastly, this is very arbitrary, but he “somehow changed his email settings so when we tried to respond to his last email it automatically got bounced back to us.” If you’ve ever used email before this isn’t rocket science. If you need some help with this though I’m sure you can call the information superhighway on your rotary phone.
I think this can only get settled in one fashion…tractor chicken like in footloose (was on yesterday).
WEEI, Barstool, Simmons, Sports Hub, Etc….you write/talk about sports and get paid..get over yourselves.
The nature of his entire relationship with ESPN is hypocritical. Obviously they’re the ones that sign his checks, but you can’t be the guy who calls people out if you only do it half-assed. So where are the blogs about Erin Andrews and Steve Philips? They don’t exist because they’re off limits ESPN-related topics. And right now he’s trying to be the lovable Bill Simmons appeals to everyone to sell his books. He’s a company man and exactly the opposite of what bloggers are supposed to be. Big O was dead on – BS is a fraud.
KEVINFAULKSBLUNTS- No lake, no trout.
white fish…….trash fish…….white trash fish
Remove this blog immediately, or you’ll be hearing from my Lawyers!!!
-Bill Simmons
Bill Simmons is a bitch who can’t carry El Pres’s jock. He’s not even close to being as funny and edgy. Fuck him.
Do people still listen to “The Big Show”? Are fart sounds funny? The fucken whiner line????
What’s most pathetic is they don’t know sports either. Shephard is a moron, but he is the only one who knows who plays 2b for the Sox.
This is comical. While I enjoy reading the stool and sending in tips, El Pres’ writing doesn’t even compare to Simmons.
Remember when the stool was a no name paper that got about 100 hits a day online? Look at you now. Bar sponsorships, expansion to New York. You are doing exactly what Simmons has done with his career: moving up.
Stop being a fucking child and trashing Simmons, because you are just making yourself look like a bitter little bitch. Here’s an idea: drop all of your sponsorships and advertisers, and eliminate New York Stool, then you can go back to your roots of being a true-to-life blogger. Because, news flash, you’re not a small time blogger any more.
I find this whole situation to be “rather elementary.”
WEEI is a joke. They are a bunch of pompous asses who don’t know shit about any team outside of Boston and even that local “knowledge” is questionable. They just yell at anyone that disagrees with their shitty opinions. 98.5 is actually listenable and should destroy EEI in a year or so.
On the other end, Sports Guy has lost his mojo and I think Hollywood has completely changed him. He just recycles all of the same articles and formulas and barely puts out one article a week and would rather tape a lame phone conversation with his friends and call it a “podcast”. Not cool.
My boy got fed up with his garbage, so he started a blog that dissects each one of his new columns, when he actually gets around to writing one. Check it: http://loathingbillsimmons.wordpress.com/
dropIT,
Me being not as good as simmons has nothing to do with anything. I haven’t changed my blogging style. He’s changed his writing style. I don’t turtle when I go on the radio. He does. I don’t deny interview requests. he does. Has nothing to do with talent. He’s a better writer than me. I’m a funnier person though
Yes, perhaps he showed a bit of cowardice in that situation however, he is under much stricter guidelines with ESPN as far as his conduct goes.
With that being said, you may look at him as a “company man,” but he is still doing what he loves and he is damn good at it.
Also, it’s kind of difficult to call yourself funnier than someone. You may not like some of the things he says, or perhaps you dislike his style, but to call yourself funnier is neither here nor there, because it’s your opinion.
What’s happening right now with you, Simmons, and WEEI is exactly what happens between competing sports media.
I shouldn’t say funnier. I’d rather read an article from Simmons and have a beer with me. At least from what I know of him.
I understand what you’re saying and that makes more sense.
Regardless, Dave, instead of trying to stoke the fire and piggy back on WEEI (who are supporters of you), you should put a little bit more thought into your post and a little less emotion. Because right now, you are coming across more bitter than anything else.
You provide entertainment for your readers, and I respect what you have done however, like all writers, originality suffers over time.
Drop It,
You’ve crossed over into stupidville. Now I can’t respond to you anymore. You’re probably simmons.
Hahaha. Good talk, see ya out there.
“I’d rather read an article from Simmons and have a beer with me.”
–El Prez
This sentence would go from an 8 to a 10 in terms of persuasiveness were you to have instead written: “I’d rather read an article from Simmons, have a beer with me, and sit for a spot of tea with Alfred.”
simmons is not a good writer. he made a career out of comparing sports to BH90210 episodes and that act is now old. he was entertaining and i used to thoroughly enjoy reading him. but his jokes are re-hashed and weak, his pop culture analogies are strained. i haven’t read his articles in 3 years. his podcasts are ok, but that’s mainly because the guests are pretty candi. but even then when he has chris connolly or carolla on he’s always making them compare something that happened in entertainment to a historical sports event. and aren’t his books just compilations of his emails?? dude’s material is running on fumes and he knows it.
pretty candid*. not pretty candi. although he does have erin andrews on sometimes and she is pretty candy.
“Look at you now. Bar sponsorships, expansion to New York. You are doing exactly what Simmons has done with his career: moving up.”
-DropIT
So your point here is that Dave shouldn’t be out trying to make a better living for himself? This is hardly doing what Simmons did. El Pres is expanding to get more exposure and make more money. That is what anyone would do in his situation. What Simmons did, however, was change the way he writes and what he writes about. El Pres has not changed his style or material at all. That is the biggest difference between them. Simmons lacks integrity and any sense of personal dignity to back up what he writes about.
have simmons balls dropped yet?
kingwake… good question. i’ve always thought simmons sounded like wyatt from weird science…
you be the judge..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3Z5GLi06BY
Unbiased Observer,
You misinterpreted what I wrote. I told Dave that he is moving up, that is a compliment, not an insult. How you read into and form your opinion is on you. Furthermore, I am interested to see what kind of proof you have to show how Simmons’ writing changed and how he lacks “integrity and personal dignity (as opposed to impersonal dignity??). I am not disagreeing or agreeing with you, I am simply intrigued.
Looking forward to reading your thoughts and keep up the good work.
haha simmons is extremely awkward to watch and try to listen to on tv/radio
DropIt
First, let me apologize for misinterpreting your statement. I thought you were blasting Dave for moving up like Bill did. Now on to Simmons…back when he was just The Sports Guy, he would write about anything he wanted; anything that the average joe would want to read about. Since being at ESPN, he has completely changed his writing to cater to whatever the company deems appropriate at the time. He likes to tell himself that he still writes for the average person, when in reality, he seems more out of touch than ever. I understand that working for a company like ESPN is a major change from a freestyle blogger, but the fact is he has changed from what he was in the beginning, which is what gave him all this success in the first place.
Observer,
I agree with you, and it is unfortunate that Simmons was, for a lack of better words, put on a leash at ESPN. He is a gifted writer and, I think, very funny while providing objective, and satriical commentary relative to sports and pop-culture. With that being said, I hope that he leaves ESPN and starts his own website otherwise the metaphorical “leash” is only going to get shorter.
I’m not going to compare him to Dave and Barstool because Dave is a blogger with a different style/technique, and he too has cornered his market very well.
The thrashing given to Mr. Simmons by the loathsome Big Show blowhards was scant compared to the one given to me earlier in the decade. You see, I was walking the cobblestone, ecstatic by the news that Prince Charles just had his finest showing shooting clay in months when I stumbled upon a group of like-dressed youths chanting “skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet.” Mistakenly believing them to also be excited about the honorable Prince’s prowess, I ran to them for affection. What I received in response, however, fell far short.
…back when he was just The Sports Guy, he would write about anything he wanted; anything that the average joe would want to read about. Since being at ESPN, he has completely changed his writing to cater to whatever the company deems appropriate at the time.
So if you worked for ESPN and they told you what you could and couldn’t write about…..you wouldn’t do it?
holy crap, did jerry inspire you? looks like one of his drawn out articles.
anyway, simmons is a good read but he’s writes about the same boston and l.a. shit. too much nba too.
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